Better the holy heretic

Click to view my blasphemous blog "Einstein the Atheist".

Marx, Freud and Einstein abhored sacred, organized, ignorance.

Marx, Freud and Einstein abhored sacred, organized, ignorance.
Karl Marx wanted to dedicate his masterpiece, Capital, to Charles Darwin...Marx shared with Darwin the same intellectual passion-to understand a world...http://tiny.cc/8y1rw

Historical Heresies

for modern man, heresy typically becomes a necessity

INFIDELS

The Jewish giants rejected sacred, tyrannical dogma.

Seneca lived during Jesus’ time.

belief versus judgment

All religions

Religion diverts us

Judaism: Leviticus 24:16 states that those who speak blasphemy "shall surely be put to death"

Judaism: Leviticus 24:16 states that those who speak blasphemy "shall surely be put to death"
Christianity: Thomas Aquinas says that “it is clear that blasphemy, which is a sin committed directly against God, is more grave than murder, which is a sin against one's neighbor".

Rejection of the concept of "monotheism" is a shirk, the most heinous and unforgivable crime.

Rejection of the concept of "monotheism" is a shirk, the most heinous and unforgivable crime.
SHIRK: THE ULTIMATE CRIME - Christians are guilty of SHIRK BY ASSOCIATION - http://www.allaahuakbar.net/shirk/crime.htm

The "others"? they all pray to a God delusion - but we don't!

Click to view my blasphemous blog "Holocaust Haggadah".

Jewish heretics

Jewish heretics

Jesus - a holy heretic?

Jesus the Heretic

Jesus was a reformed Jew

For centuries Jews have been reciting three times daily - - - that others pray to a false god

Jesus is the worst

Jesus is the worst
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism's_view_of_Jesus

Why do Jews hate Jesus?

Maimonides was a total heretic - go to http://tiny.cc/lswt9

Maimonides was a total heretic - go to http://tiny.cc/lswt9
click photo for an essay on Maimonides the heretic

One of the greatest Torah scholars of all time

One of the greatest Torah scholars of all time
Maimonides - Saint and Heretic - http://tiny.cc/3mmra

Maimonides crowns science

Maimonides crowns science
Click on above image or go to http://tiny.cc/e7h5k

Christianity is a defective, idolatrous imitation of Judaism, much worse than Islam.

Christianity is a defective, idolatrous imitation of Judaism, much worse than Islam.
Maimonides' works condemned and burned by Solomon of Montpellier and Yonah Gerondi - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy_in_Judaism

His use of an allegorical method of biblical interpretation, which minimized anthropomorphism, was opposed for several centuries by many Orthodox rabbis; but the issues involved have lost their relevancy in modern times. Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2009

New York City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies

The enlightenment

Leading proponents of the Enlightenment include Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin

Baruch or Benedict de Spinoza - Hebrew: ברוך שפינוזה‎

You are either a Spinozist or not a philosopher at all

Baruch Spinoza rejected the Judeo-Christian notion of God

"Spinoza's effort to live as neither Jew nor Christian nor Muslim"

The writ of excommunication accused Spinoza of 'abominable heresies'

miracles are merely lawlike events whose causes we are ignorant of

Spinoza Tractatus Theologico-Politicus

Some believe that Spinoza rightly feared being burned at the stake for what he wrote

Spinoza was widely seen as the most infamous atheist-heretic of Europe.

In his lifetime, Saint Baruch was proclaimed an atheist

Baruch Spinoza was the first to identify the essence of things

Spinoza was intent on disproving any sense of "chosen people"

Spinoza rightly feared of being burned at the stake

this Jewish heretic became a proud symbol of the Netherlands

Herzl

Herzl

Theodor Herzl proposes solutions to the Jewish problem

Herzl fantasized about the collective conversion of the Jews in a mass ceremony

Herzl holiday

Are heretics really far worse than Hitler?

Herzl the heretic

How much do I love this holy heretic

Poem by Einstein on Spinoza

The Jewish people have nothing "chosen" about them

Like Einstein, Ben-Gurion was an ardent admirer of Spinoza

Einstein declined the Presidency of Israel

Ben Gurion

Einstein believed in the God of a holy heretic

the word "God"

Einstein - Religion and Science

  • http://www.sacred-texts.com/aor/einstein/einsci.htm#TIMES

Both heroes were refugees of mass mayhem and genocide of Jews on Christian lands

Both heroes were refugees of mass mayhem and genocide of Jews on Christian lands

Neither of these Jewish holy heretics was crucified

Neither of these Jewish holy heretics was crucified

Spinoza was excommunicated by the rabbis in 1656

Spinoza was excommunicated by the rabbis in 1656

Spinoza's ideas disagree equally well with the orthodoxies of other religions as with Judaism

Einstein was a victim of Edgar Hoover's FBI

Einstein and J. Edgar Hoover

Jefferson

Jefferson rejected the idea

The Jefferson Bible

Paul - first corrupter

"As separable from that as the diamond from the dunghill," wrote Jefferson.

Percy Bysshe Shelley

In fighting for his God everyone, in fact, fights only for the interests of his own vanity,

Percy bysshe shelley

Percy bysshe shelley

Shelley - Golda Meir collection

Golda Meir

Click for the BBC documentary: The God Delusion

The virus of faith - click photo for video

The virus of faith - click photo for video
Jews recite three times daily that "the others" pray to a god which helps not

The Myth - click for the article

The Godless Constitution: The Case Against Religious Correctness

Forbidding a state religion

Thomas Jefferson on the Christian God

The truth of Thomas Jefferson - priests are the greatest enemies

The truth of Percy Bysshe Shelly - God needs those priests

The truth of Victor Hugo about the priests

The truth of Voltaire about the priests

The word of God is the word of the priests

The truth of Einstein

Where was the Jewish God during the Holocaust?

Click above image for famous rabbis outrageous answers

http://holocausthagaddah.blogspot.com/

Kaparot ritual - why is ritual more important than people's lives for the priests' God?

Einstein the "deeply religious nonbeliever"

The Jewish religion, like all others

RELIGIOUSLY GODLESS

The greatest!

I am a deeply religious nonbeliever

Apple's Einstein billboard - Google's Einstein logo

Apple's Einstein billboard - Google's Einstein logo

Einstein's theory of relativity

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right

e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right
http://tiny.cc/ie9qm

Time Magazine cover - July 1, 1946

Einstein was the pre-eminent scientist



in a century dominated by

science.

The touchstones of the era -

the Bomb, the Big Bang, quantum physics and electronics -

all bear his imprint.

Personal God? you must be kidding!

Einstein Letter on God

Religion is hostile to Reason

narrowed and distorted by religion

Nietzche: God is dead. One should not go to church if one wants to breathe pure air.

Christianity make sense. No?

worse - a wolf in shepherds clothing

click for Video: Bill Maher about pedophile priests

The arrogance of clergy

ignorance of nature gave birth to gods

God tells you not to eat an apple.

God tells you not to eat an apple.

among the top natural scientists disbelief is almost total

Thou Shalt Not Have Knowledge

Thou Shalt Not Have Knowledge

Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Perimeter of Ignorance

So few Muslim Nobel Prize winners because of the success of their religion

Beyond Belief

Republicans do not want to die poor

Science is a philosophy of discovery

Epicurus

God and the Challenge of Evil: A Critical Examination of Some Serious Objections to the Good God

“Religion and Reality”…A Toxic Mix

“DISBELIEF CREPT OVER ME AT A VERY SLOW RATE, BUT WAS AT LAST COMPLETE”...

Darwin

Impact on chidren

Who’s been telling us lies?

The priests or the scientists?

Darwin and Einstein - Holy heretics

Defending Science by Defining It

The “breathtaking inanity” of Intelligent Design

‘Intelligent Design’ outlawed - even in the Bible-belt

Genius

Imbude

progress

struggle

Religious indoctrination for so many people is a tattooing of the brain

Satmar Jewish sect

Professor Israel Aumann

A Jewish state not allowed before messiah's arrival - it is against God' will

religion narrows and distorts an intelligent mind

Satmar were right - no Jewish state before messiah's arrival

"separation of synagogue and state."

Adam had intercourse with every beast and animal in the Garden of Eden

Rabbi Isaac on Adam's unmentionable diversion: Talmud, Yebamoth 63a

"That's what distinguishes us from the Taliban."

The faith of a President

"WE" have "THE RIGHT"

Abraham Isaac Kook (1865–1935)-the first Ashkenazi chief rabbi of the British Mandate for Palestine

founder of the Religious Zionist Yeshiva Merkaz HaRav, Jewish thinker, Halachist, Kabbalist

He is known in Hebrew as הרב אברהם יצחק הכהן קוק

Click for "the difference between the Israelite soul...and the soul of non-Jews, at any level..."

Click for "the difference between the Israelite soul...and the soul of non-Jews, at any level..."

truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition

in the great United States we are blessed with freedom from a state religion

Values of the Founding Fathers

The Founding Fathers inclined against the Trinity and other supernatural concepts.

Nothing better deserves our patronage than the promotion of science and literature.

Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.

Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness.
http://www.radicalacademy.com/philosophicalquotations23.htm

this awful blasphemy: God is an essence that we know nothing of

Quote is from letter of Adams to Jefferson, Quincy, 22 January, 1825.

Quote is from letter of Adams to Jefferson, Quincy, 22 January, 1825.
"They all believe that great Principle which has produced this boundless universe, Newton’s universe and Herschell’s universe, came down to this little ball, to be spit upon by Jews... "

this awful blasphemy, the so called "GOD"

I do not find in our particular superstition, Christianity, one redeeming feature

Jefferson's Quote - our particular superstition, Christianity

Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty

Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind

James Monroe was a Freemason - The ties between Deism and Freemasonry were close.

less is known about Monroe's . . .thoughts on religion than that of any other President

only when the people become ignorant and corrupt

the freedom not to believe

We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus,and non-believers.

Incurably religious

Intelligent design, aka God, is a philosophy of ignorance

Dawkins short interview on GOD

The Root of All Evil?

Richard Dawkins

The God Delusion

The Virus of Faith

The virus of faith replicates itself

The virus of faith spreads

Jewish Terrorism

The Link Between Religion and Violence

Sects, Cults, & Religions

Only Christians have a place in heaven

THE RELIGIOUS BUBBLE OF DELUSION

Welcome to my website - just click on my photo

R. Albert Mohler, Jr. is the president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

Mohler: Einstein’s is very clear...a statement hauntingly like the verdict of Friedrich Nietzsche

"Einstein believed in awe and wonder, but not in God"

Urban legends about Einstein's God - click

click for Einstein's God

Einstein & wife - joke for people of faith

Is Einstein a deeply religious believer?

The joke originally featured Sherlock Holmes & Dr. Watson

Does evil contradict the reality of God

The holy heretic humiliated an atheist professor? click..

Post-Judeo-Christian

Monday, March 1, 2010

The king messiah did not come - Israel was created against the will of God, by atheists




"We need to cease to reward people

for pretending to know things they do not know.
The only area of discourse where we do this 

is on the subject of God". 


Sam Harris





by Ronnie S. Landau  Page 65-66

Many devout Jews who were still obedient to their inherited way of life regarded the Zionist idea as little short of heresy: 
to dispense with the need for the Almighty’s permission and to accomplish a physical return to Israel on the initiative of mere fellow-humans 
was betrayal of their rabbinic tradition.


Since the end of the Biblical period, 
Rabbis promoted a belief that only a Messiah could restore Jewish 

sovereignty to the land of Israel.

At the end of the biblical period the Jewish community was divided, with various groups practicing the Jewish religion in their own ways. Out of this turmoil a group of religious leaders called rabbis emerged in the 1st century ce. Over the next centuries rabbis gave shape to the kind of Judaism that dominated Jewish life until modern times. The rabbis subjected each of the rules and laws of the Bible to examination and interpretation, and they developed a voluminous body of oral law called Halakhah (Hebrew from the verb halakh, meaning “to go”). These oral laws were written down during the 1st through the 5th centuries ad and became part of the Talmud and Midrash. The interpretations of the rabbis were characterized by a deep concern for fulfilling the laws and morals of the Bible.

They promoted a belief in political quiescence (inactivity), insisting that only redemption through a Messiah could restore Jewish sovereignty to the land of Israel.
Microsoft ® Encarta ® Reference Library 2004. © 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.



The Messiah

    מקור הקביעה הידועה שהמשיח יבוא עני ורוכב על
: חמור הוא בספר זכריה פרק ט', שבו נאמר 
 "גִּילִי מְאֹד בַּת-צִיּוֹן, הָרִיעִי בַּת יְרוּשָׁלִַם, הִנֵּה מַלְכֵּךְ יָבוֹא לָךְ, צַדִּיק וְנוֹשָׁע הוּא; עָנִי וְרֹכֵב עַל-חֲמוֹר, וְעַל-עַיִר בֶּן-אֲתֹנוֹת"

The Septuagint, in Zechariah9:9 says: "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Sion; proclaim it aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem; behold, the King is coming to thee, just, and a Saviour; 
he is meek and riding on an ass, and a young foal."


The messiah
In both Jewish and Christian traditions, the messiah (Jesus Christ in the later case) was often described as riding on a donkey.
As noted, in the context of the Hebrew Bible this connoted wealth and affluence befitting the House of David, as at the time commoners are described as simply going on foot.
However, in later times when the aristocracy used horses, depicting the messiah as riding a donkey came to have an opposite connotation,
as indicating a simple, sober way of life and avoiding luxury. The same connotation is evident in the description of saints such as Francis of Assisi as riding donkeys.
In contemporary Israel, the term "Messiah's Donkey" (Chamoro Shel Mashiach חמורו של משיח) stands at the center of a controversial religious-political doctrine,
attributed to Rabbi Avraham Yitchak Hacohen Cook, under which it was the Heavenly-imposed "task" of secular Zionists to build up a Jewish State,
but once the state is established they are fated to give place to the Religious who are ordained to lead the state.
The secularists in this analogy are "The Donkey" while the religious who are fated to supplant them are a collective "Messiach".
A book on the subject, published in 1998 by the militant secularist Sefi Rechlevsky, aroused a major controversy in the Israeli public opinion.[15]




Six million

Jews were


killed

as a result of the


Zionists

Written by Satmar sect Grand Rebbe Joel Teitelbaum, zt'l



Everyone ignores the fact that

it has been these Zionist groups 

that have attracted the Jewish people

 and have violated the Oath against establishing a Jewish entity before the arrival of the Messiah. 

It is because of the Zionists that six million Jews were killed. The fact is that this is the bitter punishment stipulated in the Talmud.... (Tractate Ketuboth, p. 111), 
which results in the payment of a spiritual and physical debt from the Jewish People. Afflictions and tribulations only appear in this world because of the wicked, 
and the punishment is meted out first upon the righteous. 
However the Zionists have committed horrible actions; that they have always slandered and spoken libelously against the Jewish People to other nations, 
and have even inciting non-Jewish leaders against the Jewish People to convince them to expel Jews from their countries. 
The Zionists believed that this strategy would make it easier to take over the Holy Land and establish their State there.
We see from letters written by great rabbis in the early days of Zionism how great was their deathly fear of the consequences of the slander and libel of the Zionists; 
unfortunately their fears were realized.


THREE STRONG OATHS

HTTP://WWW.JEWSAGAINSTZIONISM.COM/ZIONISM/3STRONGOATHS.CFM

The true Jewish position on Zionism and the state called Israel is found in the Scriptures in the Talmud and in the oral traditions transmitted to us by our parents and teachers.
At the outset of the Jews' exile to Babylonia, the Prophet Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled…Verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish "foreign policy" how to behave in the lands of the nations throughout our ensuing exiles till this very day.
There Jeremiah adds in the name of G-d (verses 8 and 9), "Do not let your false prophets among you and your sorcerers seduce you, do not head your dreamers which you cause them to dream. For they speak falsely to you in My name. I did not send them." This too has applied to all the would-be misleaders of Jewry whether they presented themselves as prophets or as sorcerers or as dreamers of national aspirations.
King Solomon in Song of Songs thrice adjured the "daughters of Jerusalem" not to arouse or bestir the love until it is ready." The Talmud explains That we have been foresworn, by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a .
Throughout the seventy years of the Babylonian exile, throughout the 200 years of the Hellenic exile and throughout the 1917 since the destruction of G-d's Holy House, we have steadfastly maintained our loyalty to G-d and have not transgressed His oaths. And we have prayed for the welfare of the cities and the countries of our host nations that did not oppress us, and in their welfare we indeed always found ours.
Whoever violates Jeremiah's principles or Solomon's oaths immediately imperils the welfare of Jews locally and elsewhere in the world.

Maimonides, Iggeres Teiman – Letter to Yemen
[Maimonides wrote this Letter to the Jewish Community of Yemen almost 1,000 years ago]
And as King Solomon knew with divine inspiration that the Jewish People would face the consequences of this and that suffering would come upon them, and warned the Jewish People not to do this (i.e. violate the Three Oaths), and in a metaphorical way made them swear not to commit these acts, as it is written in Song of Songs, 3,5:  I made you swear Daughters of Jerusalem by the deer and gazelles of the field should you arouse or awaken love until it is so desired.
Therefore, you, dear brethren, must accept the Oath and do not attempt to arouse the love until the proper time when the Alm-ghty shall remember us and you with his trait of mercy to gather his portion from Exile to behold his glory at his holy Temple and redeem us from the Valley of the shadow of Death where he has placed us, thereby removing the darkness from our eyes and the fog from our hearts. He will then fulfill in our days and in yours the verse from Isaiah 9:1 The nation wandering in darkness shall see a great Light, and a Light shall shine on those residing in the land of the shadow of death. At that time G-d shall darken the eyes of all those who rise up against us, and fulfill the verse from Isaiah 9:2Verily darkness shall cover the land and fog shall cover nations, but the light of G-d shall shine upon you, and you shall display his honor.

The Maharal of Prague (Rabbi Betzalel Lowy who lived in the 17th century) explained that the prohibition of violating the Three Oaths applies even if the other nations force the Jewish People to do so.
In addition, he wrote in his book Netzach Yisroel (Chapter 24) that these Oaths may not be modified so as to affect the decree of Exile, and he expanded on the description in the Midrashic text on Song of Songs 2:18.
"Even if the nations wanted to kill the Jews with terrible torture, the Jews are forbidden to change the applicability of the Oaths. This is relevant to every one of these oaths and must be understood." Therefore, not only is it forbidden to leave the Exile even with the permission of the nations, but even if they force the Jewish People to do so under pain of death, it is forbidden to violate these Oaths in the same way it is required to give up one's life rather than accept another religion.
Even during the forced conversions under the kingdom of Portugal in the late 15th century it was forbidden to violate the Oath.
Rabbi Avraham Galanti, who other rabbis described as outstanding in his level of holiness, and who was a student of the great kabbalist Rabbi Moshe Cordovero in the 16th century, explained aspects of the Three Oaths in his book Zechus Avos [Merit of the Patriarchs] where he recounts how some Jews in Portugal wanted to revolt against the kingdom rather than submit to forced conversion. A rabbi quoted the verses from Song of Songs to the people who wanted to revolt, and pointed to the Talmudic tractate Ketuboth p. 111 which states that G-d made the Jewish People take three Oaths – one was that they should not rebel against G-d by rebelling against the nations. Thereafter the Jews submitted to death rather than forced conversion. Although the description in Ketuboth does not say that the Oaths involve directly rebelling against G-d, it is clear that the very violation of these Oaths is rebellion against G-d himself.
--


WORDS OF THE RABBIS

In support of our position we have gathered quotes from many respected Rabbis.

Rabbis before World War I

Rabbis before World War II

Rabbis after World War II

Joint Statements Issued by Rabbis in the USA, Canada and Europe Opposing Zionism

--


-



Sholom Dovber Schneersohn

The Rebbe Nishmoso Eden

Sholom Dovber Schneersohn (Hebrewשלום דובער שניאורסאהן‎; 1860-10-24 OS - 1920-03-21 NS) 
was an Orthodox rabbi and the fifth Rebbe (spiritual leader) of the Chabad Lubavitch chasidic movement. 
He is also known as "the Rebbe nishmosei eiden" (whose soul is in Eden) and as "the Rebbe Rashab" (for Reb Sholom Ber).
His teachings represent the emergence of an emphasis on outreach that later Chabad Rebbes would develop into a major theme.[1] In Chabad thought, such as described in the talks of the last Rebbe Menachem Mendel Schneerson, each of the 7 leaders of Chabad successively "drew down", broadened, explained and articulated the teachings of Chasidic philosophy more fully into intellectual grasp. The achievement of the founder of Chabad Shneur Zalman of Liadi, was to articulate the new "Torah of the Baal Shem Tov" in intellectual analysis. From his unique approach derives the name of "Chabad", standing for the intellectual faculties of the soul. In this context, Chabad lore, and the last Rebbe, describes Sholom Dovber Schneersohn as the "Maimonides of Chasidus", as with his teachings the ideas reach a new level of intellectual synthesis and philosophical grasp. Just as Maimonides in Medieval Jewish Philosophy (Hakira) and legal codification (Halacha) brought new comprehension, clarity and analytical synthesis to Jewish thought, so did Schneur Zalman ,and even more so Sholom Dovber, in the inner mystical dimensions of Judaism expressed in Hasidus. Illustrative of this is his plan, in founding the Lubavitch yeshiva system Tomchei Temimim, that the students should learn Chabad Chasidic texts "with pilpul", the Talmudic method of logical in-depth analysis.

Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel, 

and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel. 

Rabbi S.D. Schneerson



What the rabbis said about zionism

It would be out of the question to publish all the utterances of Gedolei Yisroel [Torah authorities] 
during the last century, the period of the emergence of Zionism on the Jewish horizon, because all the Gedolei Yisroel sternly opposed the movement aimed at undermining the Jewish religion and the Jewish essence
[The Torah] forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means
Rabbi S. R. Hirsch

Not via our desire did we leave the land of Israel, 
and not via our power will we come back to the land of Israel. 
Rabbi S.D. Schneerson

[Zionists] want a state in order to make Jews into heretics. 
Rabbi C. Soloveichik

The Zionists have attacked the center point of Judaism. 
Rabbi V. Soloveichik

The root of Zionism is heresy and its branches can hardly be otherwise.


WHAT THE RABBIS SAID ABOUT ZIONISM  
IN THE PREVIOUS GENERATIONS

Once before the Neila prayer on Yom Kippur Rabbi Avraham Yoshe Freund of Mansod said:
"It is not because they are Zionists that they are evildoers. It is because they are evildoers that they are Zionists."

Rabbi Aharon Roth once said:
"It is a miracle that these evildoers don't command everyone to put on tefillin. 
It is possible that were they to do it, G-d forbid, it may be forbidden to put them on."

The Chazon Ish once said:
"If it is hard to understand the whole matter of the Golden Calf, by seeing the matter of the State, one can understand it. 
The matter of the State is similar to the Golden Calf"

Rabbi Elchonon Wasserman once said:
"It is certain as the sun shines that the Land will vomit the Zionists out, because the Land is the Palace of the King....
I don't say this either to curse or to bless, but because these are things which are written in the Torah and which will take place."

Rabbi Chaim Soloveitchik once said:
"The Zionists aren't taking Jews away from Judaism in order to have a State, 
THEY NEED A STATE IN ORDER TO TAKE JEWS AWAY FROM JUDAISM"

Rabbi Yechezkel Shraga Halberstam once said:
"When a Jew recites 'Hear O Israel, the Lord your G-d, the Lord is One' 
he should have in mind rejecting all idolatry in the world, including Zionism, which is also idolatry."

Rabbi Yissachar Dov of Belz once said:
" There could be, before the arrival of Mashiach, that the Satan should succeed, and the evildoers should get a State in the Land of Israel. 
Their state would be a big danger for every Jew in material and spiritual matters."

The Chafetz Chaim, Rabbi Israel Meir Hakohen once said:
"In my opinion it is clear that the Zionists are from the offspring of AMALEK."

Rabbi Yitzchak Zev Soloveitchik (Reb Velvel) once said:
"How can the little rabbis and heads of yeshivas take upon themselves the determination of things dealing with life and death? 
It is obvious that the partition will bring with it the anger and hostility of the Arabs and other nations of the world. 
This whole thing touches on the shedding of blood. 
HOW DO THEY HAVE THE ARROGANCE TO MAKE JUDGEMENTS DEALING WITH LIFE AND DEATH?

He also said: ]
"The Agudah is nothing, just money." Rabbi Moshe Leib Diskin once said: 
"The rabbis of the generation should gather together and issue a writ of excommunication against the Zionists and eject them from the Jewish People, 
and make decrees against their bread and wine, and to forbid marrying with them, 
JUST LIKE OUR SAGES DID WITH THE SAMARITANS."

Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Eherenreich once said:
"The Zionists brought us to the Holocaust. It is well known that it was possible to redeem Jews from the Nazis with money, 
and save many hundreds of thousands of Jews in Hungary from the fire. 
THE ZIONIST LEADERS WHO NOW SIT IN GOVERNMENT PREVENTED IT!"

Rabbi Shaul Brach of Kashoa once said:
"Before thinking up the idea of Zionism, Herzl wanted all Jews to convert to Christianity. 
When he was laughed at, he developed the second idea which was able to have more effect, 
since thousands of Jews began to believe they could be Jews without the Torah of Judaism."

"I am also surprised at the leaders of the Agudah who want thousands of Jews to move to Eretz Israel. 
How can they ignore the welfare of their children, since there is no other place on earth where there is so much heresy and sectarianism 
as in the Holy Land in our day."


--

Rabbi
 Yisroel Dovid Weiss 

Interview with the representative of ultra-orthodox Neturei-Karta,

an intensely anti Israel Jewish sect
Yisroel Dovid Weiss (born 1956), a United States Haredi Rabbi, is an activist and the spokesman

for Neturei Karta International, an anti-Zionist grouping of Haredi Jews.
Based in Monsey, New York, he believes that observant Jews should peacefully oppose the existence of the Israeli state: 



"It would be
forbidden for

us to have
  
a State, 
 
even if it would be in a

land that 

is desolate and

uninhabited." 

In the Interview with Fox the rabbi says:
"This was the main stream view of Jewish people worldwide".

Rabbi Weiss: This is the view that was shared by all religious leaders throughout the past hundred years, when the whole movement of Zionism was created, the concept – the ideology – of transforming Judaism from spirituality, a religion, into materialism a nationalistic goal to have a piece of land, all the rabbinical authorities said this is antithetical with what Judaism is all about – expressly forbidden by the Torah because we are in exile by God.
Cavuto: So, you shouldn't have a state? You shouldn't have a country? You shouldn't have a government?
We shouldn't have a state. We should be living amongst all the nations as the Jews were doing for two thousand years as loyal citizens, people who are serving God, emulating God with compassion . . .and the Talmud states clearly that if we will attempt to breach these oaths of God...it would lead to catastrophic results. Contrary to what people believe, that it's a religious conflict, we have been living for hundreds of years among Muslims and Arab communities without any UN human rights groups to watch…
Cavuto: Let me ask you this, Rabbi, was life better for the Jews prior to the creation of the Jewish state of Israel?
Weiss: 100%. In Palestine, we have the testimony of the Jewish community living there and other lands that they were living in harmony and they pleaded with the United Nations, in the documents we have, the chief Rabbi of Jerusalem said we do not want a Jewish state. The Muslim, Christian and Jewish inhabitants were ignored with the creation of the State . . .
Cavuto: Neverthless, you might not have had a country per se, but you were not a stranger to being abused or slaughtered over the millennia, particularly as recently as fifty sixty years ago?
Weiss: There is an issue of being killed because of anti-semitism, and then there's another issue where you antagonize and you create your anti-semitism through Zionism . . . in other words, it's not a free for all – you knock out your neighbors windows and yell anti-semitism.
Cavuto: I know you are an orthodox Jew, what do traditional Jews think of that position?
Weiss: [this is and was the mainstream view of Jewish people worldwide] 
Cavuto: I know it was. It isn't now. So what do they tell you now.
Weiss: Well. Lets talk about the religious point of view, because we are talking about Judaism, not about those who left the fold of Judaism.
The Jewish view is, the main stream view is, that, true, we shouldn't be having a state, but once it's created the Zionist propaganda that the Arabs want to throw every Jew into the ocean and there's a ingrained hate against the Jews, which they've convinced many Jews to believe, this is why they're fearful of returning the land . . .
Cavuto: Well you can't blame them, right, I mean you have the president of Iran who says the Holocaust never existed and if he had his druthers he'd destroy Israel and all the Jews.
Weiss: That's also patently false. He has a Jewish community in Iran and they haven't murdered them when they had the opportunity to . . .
Cavuto: So, you don't take him at his word that he would try to kill Jews?
Weiss: He would [want] the dismantling of the political state of Israel. In fact, we went, a whole group of Rabbis this last year to visit Iran, and we were taken up by the leaders, we met with the vice president, he [Ahmedinejad] was in Venezuela at the time, we met with religious leaders, all of them stated unequivocally that don't have a conflict with [Jews]
Cavuto: So as long as Israel exists, Rabbi, you think – just itching for trouble
Weiss: Jews are suffering, Palestinians and Leabanese are suffering . . . we pray for the speedy and peaceful dismantlment of the Jewish state.
Cavuto: It's interesting Rabbi, you don't hear that view often.
Fox News Video:   




the-atheist-e.jpg
http://friendlyatheist.com/2008/03/25/christian-right-propaganda-posters/

"Israel was created 

against the will of


God,

by atheists"

"We pray to God every day 
for the speedy, peaceful dismantlement 
of the state of Israel" 

 VIDEOS





*  *  *


Religious Jews against Zionism

Read the Talmud

Jews in exile are


FORBIDDEN


To have their own



State



We all lived the Holocaust. The people died because they were Jewish. Because they upheld God's teaching.














































6 comments:

  1. I admire your computer skills and all the work you have done on this blog. I did not have time to read it carefully, but one thought that occurred to me and seemed relevant for you is that the Scripture, to my knowledge, nowhere says that it is wrong for the Jews to reestablish Israel as a political state. Nor does any Scripture seem to say that it cannot be done apart from the Messiah.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Holy Heretic,

    The materials and references you are collecting have great interest and importance. I look forward to your many blogs now under construction becoming better organized over time. (One problem I notice is that some links to sources are within images and cannot be clicked or copied to the browser clipboard.)

    Many thanks for collecting all this good reference material.

    Poor Richard's Almanack 2010
    http://almanac2010.wordpress.com/

    ReplyDelete
  3. H.H.

    There is a lot of great information on this site. Thank you for taking the time to put it together.
    A couple of the links did not work properly, perhaps the information had been moved.
    Over all, I am impressed and enjoyed reviewing the material.
    D.C. Willis
    http://subtledeceit.com/

    ReplyDelete
  4. "You are cursed with a toxic mix of ignorance and arrogance, my friend."

    you don't know the first thing about me, I've given you nothing on which for you to base that opinion. it is in this that YOUR ignorance & arrogance shows

    "To begin with, you have been pestering me with comments on my personal page, whining that I should give you more of my time. You seem to me to be fragile and insecure and frankly I do not feel like playing as your psychiatrist."

    You posted to my page first, then got angry when I didn't agree with you. I didn't care how much time you spent on me, I was pointing out how long it too you to respond to someone who made you work outside your cut/paste modus operandi

    "I had explained to you why during Einstein's lifetime freedom of expression was more limited and you replied with a picture of the bombing of the Twin Towers and about the Iraq War.
    My beloved "Rabbi", Einstein lived during World War II.
    Einstein was a refugee of the Holocaust, you moron. There is no comparison between the the horrors of that period and the situation we are in today. If you can't see this, you can't see this."

    Try telling that to the victims of the Iraq War, I know that many people suffered during the Holocaust, but how is their suffering greater than those who are being persecuted today? or do that just not count because they are Islam?

    "You predicted that I will block you. The last time someone predicted this, I ended up fulfilling his "prophecy"."

    Of course you blocked me, you knew I'd make a fool of you. I'm obviously superior at debating plus I'm gifted with my own opinions. anyone who reads the exchange between us will see this.

    You fail

    *Don't worry, this is the last you'll hear from me, your not that important & I have a life , see ya in the funnies

    ReplyDelete
  5. Gday,its Clare from pinterest. I was here*lol* Blog to much to read at once but good on you.
    Have a great day
    Penrith NSW Australia

    ReplyDelete